It's not even remotely political to me. It's common sense.
But let's leave the politics out.
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It's not even remotely political to me. It's common sense.
But let's leave the politics out.
BoldAdventure
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In the truest sense, a right can't require or demand something of others.
A right to free speech doesn't actually demand or require anything of anyone.
A right to bear arms is basically the right to self-protection. Requires nothing of anyone.
A right to freedom of religion requires nothing of anyone either.
A right to free healthcare, however, demands that there be a state and that the state by force creates, implements, taxes and establishes a system to provide that health care. All of that is done by force. And while in practice, doctors aren't slaves. See what happens when you stop paying your taxes.
A right to free speech doesn't actually demand or require anything of anyone.
A right to bear arms is basically the right to self-protection. Requires nothing of anyone.
A right to freedom of religion requires nothing of anyone either.
A right to free healthcare, however, demands that there be a state and that the state by force creates, implements, taxes and establishes a system to provide that health care. All of that is done by force. And while in practice, doctors aren't slaves. See what happens when you stop paying your taxes.
Concur and to amplify on your post - "All of that is done by force". That is the force of law which includes suspension of privileges to practice your vocation, fines, and confinement, or a combination of all three judgements. This is a "right" that only the Government enjoys; and as cited earlier this applies to all health care providers, allied scientists, and support personnel involved in the delivery of health care.
So I post apolitically - the "right" of the one trumps the rights of many?
BoldAdventure
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100acre
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Leaving with this, Exactly, Common Sense. It's what I meant to say.
BoldAdventure
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Any of you CA folks here about SB249?
Apparently, SB249 passed the State Senate and is being considered by the Assembly.
The next step is a hearing in the Assembly Committee on Water Parks and Wildlife. Tuesday, July 11th at 9:00 am. Seems like it could affect OHV access in CA. Limiting if not outright ending a lot of it. Especially the "science" committee's power to close stuff. And we all know over zealous environmentalists want to end all human access to everything because people are a plague
http://www.dealernews.com/action-alert-california-sb-249-threat-ohv-recreation-passes-committee/
Apparently, SB249 passed the State Senate and is being considered by the Assembly.
The next step is a hearing in the Assembly Committee on Water Parks and Wildlife. Tuesday, July 11th at 9:00 am. Seems like it could affect OHV access in CA. Limiting if not outright ending a lot of it. Especially the "science" committee's power to close stuff. And we all know over zealous environmentalists want to end all human access to everything because people are a plague
http://www.dealernews.com/action-alert-california-sb-249-threat-ohv-recreation-passes-committee/
100acre
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A Magnanimous Maldezian of the Multiminimus Maximum. Leader of the Harmonious Fruit Bats of Bellingara, Slayer of the Mesmerizing Bulbous Middletoe. Captivator of Two. Master Kerfunkeler-HammerSpleen. Mystic of the Ages lost his fork somewhere near the salad bar.
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100acre
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There were some Political comments in this article but I removed them. Interesting patterns...I would've sent a link but this is how it was emailed to me. I hope it's ok to post it, it not, feel free to remove it. Thanks
by Brian Hayes | Top Right News
President Trump unleashed ICE once again this week, this time deploying its Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) unit, along with the DEA to arrest dozens of convenience store owners across 4 states.
Over 60 people were arrested, and already 35 of them have been indicted by a Federal grand jury, with federal conspiracy charges for money laundering, distributing controlled substances and trafficking contraband cigarettes.
The AP carried this story:
(T)he suspects conspired for more than 2 years to buy contraband cigarettes in St. Louis, a low tax market, while transporting and distributing them in Chicago, Illinois, and New Jersey, which are high tax markets. The store owners are accused of using several convenience stores that they operated to create the appearance of legal cigarette purchases.
Illegal profits form the contraband cigarette sales were laundered through accounts associated with the stores, and used to manufacture and distribute illegal controlled substances.
A synthetic drug, K-2, was sold every day from a handful of the convenience stores. Authorities said the store owners manufactured synthetic drugs themselves by importing chemicals from China.
“The collaboration with our federal and local law enforcement partners is the key to breaking criminal enterprises in this area,” said Special Agent in Charge James M. Gibbons of HSI Chicago.
“Synthetic drugs that are sold as substitutes for cocaine and methamphetamine, are neither legal nor safe,” said James P. Shroba, Special Agent in Charge of the DEA St. Louis Division. “These substances were never intended for human consumption and only serve to satisfy the avarice of the seller.”
If convicted, the defendants face a maximum of five to 20 years in prison and the a $1 million dollar fine.
But here’s what the Associated “Press” didn’t think you needed to know…the names of those indicted.
See if you notice any pattern…
Mohammed Almuttan, aka Abu Ali, 35, St. Louis, MO
Rami Almuttan, aka Abu Louay, 33, St. Louis, MO
Hisham Mutan, aka Abu Mohamed, 41, St. Louis, MO
Saddam Mutan, aka Abu Ali, 24, St. Louis, MO
Mazin Abdelsalam, aka Abu Mohammad, 38, St. Louis, MO
Najeh Muhana, aka Abu Yazan, 41, Fairview, NJ
Fares Muhana, aka Abu Yamama, 40, Cliffside Park, NJ
Ayoub Qaiymah, aka Abu Faysal, 23, Richmond, VA
Naser Abid, 23, Chicago, IL
Yadgar Barzanji, aka Abu Siver, 47, St. Louis, MO
Wafaa Alwan, 50, St. Louis, MO
Ahmed Abuali, aka Bazilla, 31, North Bergen, NJ
Mohammed Kayed, aka Mohammed Fayez, 21, Clifton, NJ
Momen Abuali, 20, Little Ferry, NJ
Firat Sevindik, 42, Cliffside Park, NJ
Mohammed Mustafa, 30, North Bergen, NJ
Mohammad Karashqah, Abu Yazid, 47, North Bergen, NJ
Fayez Sheikha, 46, Mishawaka, IN
Jihad Shihadeh, Abu Malik, 58, Chicago Ridge, IL
Ismael Abadi, 57, Carol Stream, IL
Abed Hamed, Abed Fawzan, 39, Greenville, NC
Maher Hamed, Abu Alazara, 33, Swansea, IL
Abdel Adi, 25, Oak Lawn, IL
Muhanad Khatib, Abu Alamin, 36, Chicago, IL
Eyad Awad, 38, Chicago, IL
Ismael Mustafa, 60, Kankakee, IL
Hayder Al Fatli, 40, St. Louis, MO
Kutlay Guvener, 35, Chicago, IL
Saad Al Mallak, 30, Dittmer, MO
Hassan Abdelatif, 29, Collinsville, IL
Mahajir Naz, 32, St. Louis, MO
Talal Abuajaj, 23, St. Louis, MO
Basem Hamdan, aka Abu Ramiz, 57, St. Louis, MO
Zainal Saleh, 29, St. Louis, MO and
Ibrahim Awad, 39, St. Louis, MO
That’s right…every single one of the 35 men indicted is Muslim. Nothing to see here, huh?
And there’s more. According to sources, “at least 20” of the men are being held on additional “immigration detainers” by ICE. That means they are “suspected illegal aliens.”
The AP didn’t feel you needed to know that either. I’m sure it just slipped their minds.
This is just the latest in a continuing series of Muslim-owned convenience store criminal enterprises.
As TRN reported, in 2015 state authorities in Alabama uncovered a massive, EBT-for-terrorism scheme in which Muslim-owned convenience stores exploited the U.S. welfare system to fund ISIS:
The massive probe, dubbed Operation T-bone, targeted those they say have been cheating the food stamp system to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars and sending the profits via wire transfer to Yemen, some of which is suspected to have funded Islamic State (ISIS) terrorist activity.
All 11 stores shut down by authorities were Muslim-owned.
There is a long history of Muslims using welfare systems for criminal activity, as well as purposely abusing the system. As we reported in 2013, a prominent Muslim cleric called on Muslim immigrants in Western nations to purposely collect government welfare as a so-called “Jihad Seeker’s Allowance.”
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by Brian Hayes | Top Right News
President Trump unleashed ICE once again this week, this time deploying its Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) unit, along with the DEA to arrest dozens of convenience store owners across 4 states.
Over 60 people were arrested, and already 35 of them have been indicted by a Federal grand jury, with federal conspiracy charges for money laundering, distributing controlled substances and trafficking contraband cigarettes.
The AP carried this story:
(T)he suspects conspired for more than 2 years to buy contraband cigarettes in St. Louis, a low tax market, while transporting and distributing them in Chicago, Illinois, and New Jersey, which are high tax markets. The store owners are accused of using several convenience stores that they operated to create the appearance of legal cigarette purchases.
Illegal profits form the contraband cigarette sales were laundered through accounts associated with the stores, and used to manufacture and distribute illegal controlled substances.
A synthetic drug, K-2, was sold every day from a handful of the convenience stores. Authorities said the store owners manufactured synthetic drugs themselves by importing chemicals from China.
“The collaboration with our federal and local law enforcement partners is the key to breaking criminal enterprises in this area,” said Special Agent in Charge James M. Gibbons of HSI Chicago.
“Synthetic drugs that are sold as substitutes for cocaine and methamphetamine, are neither legal nor safe,” said James P. Shroba, Special Agent in Charge of the DEA St. Louis Division. “These substances were never intended for human consumption and only serve to satisfy the avarice of the seller.”
If convicted, the defendants face a maximum of five to 20 years in prison and the a $1 million dollar fine.
But here’s what the Associated “Press” didn’t think you needed to know…the names of those indicted.
See if you notice any pattern…
Mohammed Almuttan, aka Abu Ali, 35, St. Louis, MO
Rami Almuttan, aka Abu Louay, 33, St. Louis, MO
Hisham Mutan, aka Abu Mohamed, 41, St. Louis, MO
Saddam Mutan, aka Abu Ali, 24, St. Louis, MO
Mazin Abdelsalam, aka Abu Mohammad, 38, St. Louis, MO
Najeh Muhana, aka Abu Yazan, 41, Fairview, NJ
Fares Muhana, aka Abu Yamama, 40, Cliffside Park, NJ
Ayoub Qaiymah, aka Abu Faysal, 23, Richmond, VA
Naser Abid, 23, Chicago, IL
Yadgar Barzanji, aka Abu Siver, 47, St. Louis, MO
Wafaa Alwan, 50, St. Louis, MO
Ahmed Abuali, aka Bazilla, 31, North Bergen, NJ
Mohammed Kayed, aka Mohammed Fayez, 21, Clifton, NJ
Momen Abuali, 20, Little Ferry, NJ
Firat Sevindik, 42, Cliffside Park, NJ
Mohammed Mustafa, 30, North Bergen, NJ
Mohammad Karashqah, Abu Yazid, 47, North Bergen, NJ
Fayez Sheikha, 46, Mishawaka, IN
Jihad Shihadeh, Abu Malik, 58, Chicago Ridge, IL
Ismael Abadi, 57, Carol Stream, IL
Abed Hamed, Abed Fawzan, 39, Greenville, NC
Maher Hamed, Abu Alazara, 33, Swansea, IL
Abdel Adi, 25, Oak Lawn, IL
Muhanad Khatib, Abu Alamin, 36, Chicago, IL
Eyad Awad, 38, Chicago, IL
Ismael Mustafa, 60, Kankakee, IL
Hayder Al Fatli, 40, St. Louis, MO
Kutlay Guvener, 35, Chicago, IL
Saad Al Mallak, 30, Dittmer, MO
Hassan Abdelatif, 29, Collinsville, IL
Mahajir Naz, 32, St. Louis, MO
Talal Abuajaj, 23, St. Louis, MO
Basem Hamdan, aka Abu Ramiz, 57, St. Louis, MO
Zainal Saleh, 29, St. Louis, MO and
Ibrahim Awad, 39, St. Louis, MO
That’s right…every single one of the 35 men indicted is Muslim. Nothing to see here, huh?
And there’s more. According to sources, “at least 20” of the men are being held on additional “immigration detainers” by ICE. That means they are “suspected illegal aliens.”
The AP didn’t feel you needed to know that either. I’m sure it just slipped their minds.
This is just the latest in a continuing series of Muslim-owned convenience store criminal enterprises.
As TRN reported, in 2015 state authorities in Alabama uncovered a massive, EBT-for-terrorism scheme in which Muslim-owned convenience stores exploited the U.S. welfare system to fund ISIS:
The massive probe, dubbed Operation T-bone, targeted those they say have been cheating the food stamp system to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars and sending the profits via wire transfer to Yemen, some of which is suspected to have funded Islamic State (ISIS) terrorist activity.
All 11 stores shut down by authorities were Muslim-owned.
There is a long history of Muslims using welfare systems for criminal activity, as well as purposely abusing the system. As we reported in 2013, a prominent Muslim cleric called on Muslim immigrants in Western nations to purposely collect government welfare as a so-called “Jihad Seeker’s Allowance.”
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100acre
Adventurist
In Louisiana they actually have Daiquiri drive throughs and they're served in a styrofoam cup with plastic lids like you get at fast food joints but with the opening for the straw being taped over with Scotch Tape. In almost all convenience stores in Louisiana you can buy Liquor as well. It used to be you had to be 18 to buy beer, but that may have changed. Heck, if the water table ever drained away, the Cajuns could refill it with all they booze. Dere's always a palty going on somewheres. Dey likes Dey Booze down dere...
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Gallowbraid
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A sneeze is simply radar for polite people.
Optimistic Paranoid
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In light of the fires we have had here in Northern Az, example the Goodwin fire, I must ask why were people having camp fires at Expo West. There were signs out and TV adds saying NO CAMP FIRES !!!! And the people having the fires say how much they love the outdoors. Drago.......