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Sure it gets great mileage and can run on electricity, but what about the footprint the goes into making the batteries or for that matter disposing the non recyclable batteries. What about the power used to generate for them to use.

That issue has been thoroughly investigated. A good synopsis is here.
 
I'm torn to whether or not to use my dividend this year.... This will be my last use of their "services." I will, however be keeping whatever brand-named items that I currently have for the time being until I find better replacements if necessary.

My girlfriend was driving a Prius as a temporary vehicle for the past few months and I was going to make a sticker for her: "I love my Prius" -No One Ever. She hated driving that car, although the mpg was decent on our wallets. It's such a bore and extremely lackluster to throw around town and the interior is even worse. I hate that car with a passion. Even the drivers I've encountered on the road; they are either extremely slow-inconsiderate drivers, or stupid fast-crazy drivers. /rant
 
I'll admit that I have a tent that I bought at REI years ago, and still use it today when needed. Since I have discovered the error of my ways I haven't been back in one of their stores, nor do I intend to.
 
My feelings aren't hurt here, but yeah... I'm not getting all the vitriol expressed towards the Prius... like its the only Hybrid manufactured and sold in North America. Every manufacturer sells them; the commercial vehicle industry makes them to move people and goods. But the Prius is the "lightning rod." It's a flippin' car and it gets really great mileage for the price; and since it's a Toyota, has required very little of my personal treasure to maintain. It's a first generation (2003) with close to 200K.

If you don't like the operators that you perceive represent a cause that you don't agree with, that's another thing, but why not articulate that? Steve Simpson has a Prius too, incidentally, and in the Washington, DC Metro area it's a necessary survival tool for the unpredictably lengthy commute times.

My Prius is my carbon offset to my Tacoma... if that makes anyone feel better. :D
 
Not to continue on any negative rant but the thing that killed my interest in REI the 1st time was when one day I decided to look at the clearance rack and on said rack was a nice OD Green Arcteryx light jacket made in Bangledesch on sale for $499.00 down from $700. Annoyed was I. After hearing about their support against our hobby, sealed the coffin for me and my REI shopping dollars.

When they come out with a flying tank Prius, I might want one...otherwise they make poor ramps...
 

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Toyota will be remembered for making the first hybrid car that drove and functioned just like . . . a car. Except for the 50 miles per gallon. Roseann rented one in San Diego a couple years ago with the agreement to return it with a full tank. She put 40 miles on it and the gauge still read full.
 
Come on Jonathan, haters gotta hate...;)
 

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Ha, my commuter is a '92 Mazda Miata, 30 MPG, fun to drive, can park it at the bicycle rack, paid for, stupid proof. I sure caught some grief from some of my buddies. I'm old, my doc says I'm fat, and I don't give a rat's nether regions what people think anymore! If it meet's my needs, that's all I need!
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Back to hating on REI!:cool:
 
Toyota will be remembered for making the first hybrid car that drove and functioned just like . . . a car. Except for the 50 miles per gallon. Roseann rented one in San Diego a couple years ago with the agreement to return it with a full tank. She put 40 miles on it and the gauge still read full.

It is a great car. It is after all, a Toyota. And you're right, Toyota gets that credit. I'd drive one.

As for REI... Obviously I sure don't like their politics BUT I'm not going to let that prevent me from getting something there if it benefits me. This is America after all and both REI and myself are free to spend our money however we want.
 
Since we're also talking about interesting cars, I met up with my employer's partner today for some fishing gear advice and this is what he drives. I've never seen another...
 

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Hey, I have no issue with wanting to get good fuel economy.. Heck, my DD is a 2014 Hyundai accent 6 spd Manual, and I LOVE that little car. Great in the twisties going up to Arrowhead every day, and an average of 38 mpg on the freeway...
 

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Those Honda Element E-Campers are made in San Diego by long time AAV supporter Ursa Minor Vehicles - the same company that makes the Jeep JKUR J-30 and J-180 aka the AT Habitat.
 
The bathrooms in REI are always quite clean and the nearest store is on the way home from a number of great restaurants that friends and I like to frequent.
 
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