The Star Wars Thread
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Gallowbraid
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Wow. What a GREAT movie!
This is the first positive review I've heard. Many of my star wars friends have said it's awful. I'm going to try to see it Monday night to decide for myself.
Oh, there’s no such thing as a perfect movie and especially given a new Director/franchise ownership etc etc... THIS saga, as my grandmother used to say, is a very a tough row to hoe. There were some things that made me cringe as well.
I did see it in IMAX 3D (which I usually shy away from) and that really added to the wow factor for us.
That’s all I’ll say for now
WUZombies
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Watched it last night and I thought it was a wonderful movie.
It is a long one, but good, quite good. It also left me with a similar feeling to when I had first watched Empire as a kid, feelings of awe and frustration.
There was necessary character development parts that cut down on the number of things blowing up. Like in Empire Strikes Back where Han, Leia, et al., were hiding in the asteroid. Boring really but that part is absolutely necessary because that's where Han's and Leia's relationship changed. The classic "I love you", "I know" exchange wouldn't be a classic. People would be saying "WTF! They hate each other!" instead.
I'll stop here because spoilers.
Optimistic Paranoid
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I saw it today. Your friends are right. This movie was terrible. Lucas should have stopped with the first trilogy.
Gallowbraid
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Well I saw it in Atlanta this morning (thanks airport power outage for the free time).
Was it a bad movie? Well...I'm still not sure. It was not great. I was invited to see it again tonight in Dallas and I declined if that says anything.
The one liners were pretty good, although a few felt out of place. A couple were just nods to the fandom out there.
I'll probably watch it again when it hits bluray, but it's not worth another theater visit.
Was it a bad movie? Well...I'm still not sure. It was not great. I was invited to see it again tonight in Dallas and I declined if that says anything.
The character development was shallow, borderline non-existent...but was probably the appropriate level for younger viewers who expect a good vs evil dynamic. You could tell the writer wanted something more complex, and I thought it was going to go that way, only to have it simplified again by the end of the movie. This is Star Wars though and historically is never been much more than that. Perhaps I expected too much.
The one liners were pretty good, although a few felt out of place. A couple were just nods to the fandom out there.
The child force user in the end should have given me goosebumps, a symbol that the force and the struggle between good and evil will continue, the spark will never die...instead I saw it as a warning that Disney is going to milk this cash cow forever with spin offs...
I'll probably watch it again when it hits bluray, but it's not worth another theater visit.
See, I really don't see any difference in the quality in the movies. The following quote is from the Telegraph's original review of Star Wars Episode VI – The Return of the Jedi by Patrick Gibbs, June 3, 1983.
"the dialogue is laughable"
I have the opposite view. Lucas nearly ruined the franchise with Episode I and the whole Jar Jar Binks thing, I'd say Disney is doing OK with the post-Lucas era despite all the purist critics and their prognostications of Star Wars being ruined.
I like to use the books as an example (I've lost count of authors and numbers of Star Wars universe books). Lucas set the stage, now others have gone on to fill this universe with even more detail and many of the "spinoff" books are far better than the original space opera.
Lucas set the cornerstone, but many many others continue the saga. That works out pretty well for us, and I'm really looking forward to SOLO.
WUZombies
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I've never been able to get into the Star Wars book universe, perhaps I've tried the wrong ones, but I agree with what you say here. The Disney era of Star Wars has put out three top notch additions to the franchise (I especially liked Rogue One).
I felt a great deal of nostalgia watching this one with my 9 year old daughter. See, I was 10 in 1977 when Star Wars came to the theater in my small town. There’d never been anything like it.
Changed forever was I.
Kinda neat to sit there with my daughter all these years later, watching Episode 8.
Who would have thought that the original would have spawned this saga that connects young and old alike and continues on across the decades.
I hope it goes on forever
Changed forever was I.
Kinda neat to sit there with my daughter all these years later, watching Episode 8.
Who would have thought that the original would have spawned this saga that connects young and old alike and continues on across the decades.
I hope it goes on forever
Agreed the first point completely. I hated the Episode 1 so much I skipped 2&3. Beyond that I've enjoyed the other movies, some as much as the original series, excepting Empire of course which stands above all the rest.
Solo was/is my favorite character, so long as he starts with the original, original movie that had him shoot Greedo before Greedo could get a shot off. As a result, I have a huge concern that the Solo movie can't possibly live up to the real Han Solo. I'm expecting some sort of Grease/Hangover mock up set in space. Maybe I'm over thinking it, setting my expectations so low that there's a chance I don't hate it, but I'm still concerned. I'll still see it opening night/weekend.
Back to TLJ, I think it suffers from such high expectations people think it's worse than it is. We waited a decade for THe Force Awakens and it was pretty fantastic. Then Rogue One was expected to be a bust and most fans have it in their top 3, including me. I liked TLJ for the most part. The parts I liked I really liked and the parts I didn't like I really didn't like. I'd guess 80/20 or 75/25. I'd like to see it again and probably will, not sure if that'll be in the theater or at home. Overall I thought it was a great movie, but about the middle road in the list of Star Wars movies.
Brushogger
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I'll give it an OK........ Saying the last anything pertaining to this money machine is pretty laughable. My kids will be taking their grand kids to episode 20.
I've been reading some of the comments surrounding the The Last Jedi, and thought I might interject my thoughts. The notion that Disney would've bought Lucas's babies from him for $4.1 billion... that's BILLION with a "B" and not continue building the franchise is hysterical. Did anyone really think their plan would be to sit back on the coattails of Lucas's former success and just collect royalties to pay off that investment?
I was happy to see them take it over before George could go back and further revise movies that should have been left alone. Face it, he peaked in the 70's and 80's and ruined everything he's touched since. It took me a while before I could even locate digital copies of the unedited originals, so I could preserve my memory of them. Meanwhile J.J. Abrams proved his abilities to me when he was doing the Fringe series on Fox. With the creativity he brought to that show, I knew Star Wars would come alive again through Disney.
I may have mentioned it before, but expectation management comes into play with the new films. Nothing will be better than the originals, period. For any fan of Star Wars nothing will live up to the magic that you remember having seen them for the first time, and that's okay. More than likely, however unreasonable, new movies will never measure up to childhood/adolescent/young adult established nostalgia. As @Dave mentioned a new generation is getting exposed with each new movie... isn't it more fun sharing the magic they are experiencing that ties us together? Stop approaching the new movies like a critic while avoiding the fact that the originals are critically... <gulp> not very good movies. Strangely, they still seem to make many of our lists of favorite movies, including my own.
The Last Jedi was enjoyable and will have its place in my collection... that place will be more prominent than Episodes I-III that are currently shimming furniture.
I was happy to see them take it over before George could go back and further revise movies that should have been left alone. Face it, he peaked in the 70's and 80's and ruined everything he's touched since. It took me a while before I could even locate digital copies of the unedited originals, so I could preserve my memory of them. Meanwhile J.J. Abrams proved his abilities to me when he was doing the Fringe series on Fox. With the creativity he brought to that show, I knew Star Wars would come alive again through Disney.
I may have mentioned it before, but expectation management comes into play with the new films. Nothing will be better than the originals, period. For any fan of Star Wars nothing will live up to the magic that you remember having seen them for the first time, and that's okay. More than likely, however unreasonable, new movies will never measure up to childhood/adolescent/young adult established nostalgia. As @Dave mentioned a new generation is getting exposed with each new movie... isn't it more fun sharing the magic they are experiencing that ties us together? Stop approaching the new movies like a critic while avoiding the fact that the originals are critically... <gulp> not very good movies. Strangely, they still seem to make many of our lists of favorite movies, including my own.
The Last Jedi was enjoyable and will have its place in my collection... that place will be more prominent than Episodes I-III that are currently shimming furniture.