Ford Transit Trail: New info from Ford Pro

[Greg]

Don't know how long this will be up but a Transit Trail only part (Roof Fan) was on the build-your-own Transit page and it swapped me over to the Transit Trail package when clicked. Obviously everything is subject to change.

Here's the build.

What the prices are now.

The Transit Trail package is $11,755. MSRP is about $70,000​

Roof fan vent is $695​

POWERTRAIN

S4 3.5L EcoBoost® V6 Engine - $1,775​

All-Wheel Drive - $0​

10-Speed SelectShift® Automatic Transmission - $0​

3.73 Limited Slip Axle - $0​

PACKAGES

Cargo Van - $0​

Heavy-Duty Trailer Tow Package - $0​

Transit Trail - $11,755​

EXTERIOR

16" Silver Steel Wheel with Exposed Lug Nuts - $0 (nope, see pics)​

235/65R16C 121/119 R BSW All-Season Tires - $0 (nope, 30")​

Short Arm Power Adjusting, Power-Folding Heated with Turn Signals - $0​

Modified Vehicle Wiring System - $0​

Windows – Privacy Glass - $0​

Keyless Entry Keypad - $0​

Spare Tire and Wheel - $0​

Heavy-Duty Front Axle - $0​

Auxiliary Fuel Port Extension Line - $385 (I added)​

Extended Range Fuel Tank - $0​

Horn – Dual Note - $0​

Blind Spot Assist 1.0 - $0​

Reverse Sensing System - $0​

Front Sensing System - $0​

Side Sensing System - $0​

AGM Batteries – Dual - $0​

High Resolution Digital Camera - $0​

Exterior Lighting - Black High-Intensity Discharge (HID) Headlamps - $0​

Exterior Lighting – Front Fog Lamps - $0​

Roof Marker Lamp Delete - $0​

Windows – Fixed Glass, Rear-Door and Passenger-Side Cargo Door - $0​

INTERIOR

Dark Palazzo Gray Cloth, 4-Way Manual Swivel Driver and 4-Way Manual Swivel Passenger Seats - $0​

Large Center Console - $195 (I added)​

Front Overhead Shelf - $0​

Floor Covering – Front Vinyl - $0​

Illuminated Sun Visor - $0​

B-Pillar Assist Handle (Low Roof) - $0​

Rearview Mirror - $0​

Intelligent Access with Push Button Start - $0​

Roof Vent Fan - $695 ( I added)​

Horn – Dual Note - $0​

Power Outlet – 110V/400W - $0​

Powerpoint Outlet – 12V - $0​

Full Rear Compartment Lighting 0 $75 (I added)​

Auxiliary Fuse Panel with High Spec Interface Connector - $0​

SYNC® 4, 12” Multi-Function Display with SiriusXM® with 360L, HD Radio™ and Connected Navigation (90 Day Trial) - $0​

SYNC® 4, 12” Multi-Function Display with SiriusXM® with 360L, HD Radio™,Connected Built-In Navigation (3-years of service) with Intelligent Adaptive Cruise Control and Intersection Assist - $885 (I upgraded)​

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[Greg]

Blue looks good too.

 

[Greg]

Available on Cargo Van.

Requires:

● 3.5L EcoBoost® V6​

● AWD​

● Medium and High Roof with 148” Wheelbase and High Roof with 148” Wheelbase with Extended Length​

● 9,500 GVWR​

Includes:

● 3.5" Body Lift with Improved Ground Clearance, Approach and Departure Angles​

● 2.75" Increase in Frontal and Rear Track Width​

● Unique Transit Trail badge​

●16" Transit Trail Black Alloy Wheel​

● 245/75 R16 Goodyear Wrangler Workhorse All Terrain Tire​

● Slider Style Side Steps (Driver and Passenger sides)​

● Unique Black Transit Trail Grille with integrated marker lamps​

● Black HID Headlamps​

● Unique Skid Plate Style Front Bumper​

● Unique Transit Trail Splash Guards and Wheel Arch Cladding​

● Front Wheel Arch Liners​

● Intelligent Access with Push-Button Start​

● Blind Spot Assist 1.0​

● Front Fog Lamps​

● Auxiliary Fuse Panel with High Spec Interface Connector​

● Dark Palazzo Gray Cloth, 4-Way Manual Swivel Driver and 4 Way Manual Swivel Passenger Seats​

● SYNC 4 with SiriusXM® with 360L, HD Radio™ and 12” Display​

● High Resolution Digital Camera​

● Power Outlet – 110V/400W​

● Power Point – 12V​

● Front Overhead Shelf​

● Reverse Sensing System​

● Side Sensing System​

● Fixed Rear Cargo Door Glass and Fixed Passenger-side Glass​

● Illuminated Sun Visors​

● Adaptive Cruise Control (Not available with SYNC 4 with SiriusXM® with 360L, HD Radio™, Navigation, Intelligent Adaptive Cruise Control (iACC) and 12” Display)​

● Privacy Glass​

● Dual AGM Batteries​

● Keyless Entry Keypad​

● Horn - Dual Note​

● B-Pillar Assist Handle​

● Heavy-Duty Trailer Package​

Upgradeable Features/Options (for additional charge):

● Roof Vent Fan​

● Extended Range Fuel Tank​

● SYNC 4 with SiriusXM® with 360L, HD Radio™, Navigation, Intelligent Adaptive Cruise Control (iACC) and 12” Display​

● SYNC 4 with AM/FM stereo without Navigation​

● 360-Degree Camera with Split View and Front Washer​

● Upfitter Package​

● Ebony Leather, 10-Way Power heated Driver and 10-Way Power Heated Passenger Seats​

Not Available with:

● Remote Start​

● Heavy-Duty Cargo Flooring​

● Ambulance Prep Package – Cargo Van​

● RV Prep Package​

● Parcel Delivery Package​

● Exterior Upgrade Package – SRW / DRW​

● Rear View Display in Rearview Mirror​

● MyKey®​

● Rear Bumper Delete​

● Interior Upgrade Package – Cargo Van​

● Load Area Protection Package​

● Reverse Brake Assist​

● E-Transit​

● Front/Rear Auxiliary A/C and Heater (Driver Controlled)​

● Bulkheads - Lockable Door with Window or Window Only​

● Heavy-Duty Scuff Plate Kit​

● Enhanced Active Park Assist​

● Virtual Rearview Mirror​

 

[FordGuy]

Hopefully it will be available for ordering soon

 

[Greg]

High Roof Long

 

[Haggis]

Blue looks good too.
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You’ve had too many wobble pops and stayed too late at this bar. That chick is fugly…

In seriousness though vans are appealing, enough so that we rented one for a long week last spring for our romp around Oregon. We had a lifted Sprinter and we wanted to put one to the test before we became serious about one. All in all it’s one convenient package but there’s no getting around that your driving a delivery van. They.re an uninspiring drive but with an easy to live with living space. We personally are not sold on one but still roll the idea around based on as short of wheelbase and lowest roofline model available to cut down the bulk. Even with a lift, and decent tires it’s was just a step above Subaru ”prowess” in what limited offroads we used. Great road tripper, backcountry explore not so much.

I would really recommend renting a kitted van before dropping 90 grand on an Amazon truck with a lift to see if you would really be happy with it for the long haul . After our experience we just don’t know if the convenience is worth the limitations though we had thought it could tow a SXS for use on more backcountry runs. But that’s another $25 grand…

 

[Greg]

You’ve had too many wobble pops and stayed too late at this bar. That chick is fugly…

In seriousness though vans are appealing, enough so that we rented one for a long week last spring for our romp around Oregon. We had a lifted Sprinter and we wanted to put one to the test before we became serious about one. All in all it’s one convenient package but there’s no getting around that your driving a delivery van. They.re an uninspiring drive but with an easy to live with living space. We personally are not sold on one but still roll the idea around based on as short of wheelbase and lowest roofline model available to cut down the bulk. Even with a lift, and decent tires it’s was just a step above Subaru ”prowess” in what limited offroads we used. Great road tripper, backcountry explore not so much.

I would really recommend renting a kitted van before dropping 90 grand on an Amazon truck with a lift to see if you would really be happy with it for the long haul . After our experience we just don’t know if the convenience is worth the limitations though we had thought it could tow a SXS for use on more backcountry runs. But that’s another $25 grand…

I like a lot of things with MB Sprinters. If you're willing to bend pinch welds they can wear 35" shoes. But the 3.0-liter V-6 diesel has 188HP and 325ftlbs of torque. The 2.0-liter I-4 HO diesel for 23+ isn't much better with 208HP and 332ftlbs of torque. Then there's the 24gal fuel tank of the Sprinter. Cost of diesel and general cost of ownership. The transit basically has 2 things over the sprinter. 310HP and 400ftlbs of torque gas engine and a 31 gal tank. Max tire size on a transit if you're willing to bend pinch welds is 32". Bigger tires = cheap lift.

I was thinking of renting one or I could borrow my brothers Revel but the kitted van I could rent or my brothers Revel are 9,000lb rhinos on roller-skates. I plan on building out the interior at a very basic level and those don't really represent what I want.

 

[Greg]

Here's something I noticed looking at the Van Compass site for other options.

The stock tires on the 23 Trail package (red outline) would require some pinch weld trimming on a 22 Transit. I wonder how much of a change in the Transit's front wheel well configuration was made to accommodate the trail package and if there a new upper limit for all 23+ vans.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Trail package suspension lift is a licensed Van Compass design.

 

[Trump]

I’m going to enter the conversation on this one since I too have been contemplating a van for the last two years or so. But, every time I start researching options, I wind up giving up and returning to the drawing board. If some of the benefits of the Transit and Sprinter platforms could be combined, I’d feel better about the large monetary investment. However, both on their own have many cons that I can’t justify.

I have some history with the Transit platform abroad during our travels of New Zealand. It was excellent in a box on van chassis setup, and I had few complaints that I can even recall now years later. This was an RV though, not anything remotely intended for off highway travel. That’s what I still see this “trail” version as. If a 4x4 Sprinter doesn’t have enough off-road prowess, I think the Ford will be even more disappointing. I have not gone searching just yet, but would bet that this new offering wouldn’t have the departure angle necessary to cope with my driveway… That is an absolute requirement in my case. The lack of a low range is also more limiting than I initially thought. I’m currently traveling around Park City, and I now have my doubts about 9,000 lbs of #vanlife navigating 15% grades with snowchains. I think the Sprinter chassis could be up to the task, but the drivetrain is even less confidence inspiring. My brother-in-law’s Sprinter has been in for work (DEF, turbo, and general emissions equipment) on three separate occasions in a year of ownership.

I will continue my search and am anxious for a review of this trail trim from an end user with similar goals to mine. Before I end this post…

I’d like to point out the irony of the high-top Transit Trail being a substantially tall vehicle, yet once again the decorative “raptor” clearance lights are on the grill and not any place they could serve a useful purpose.

 

[Greg]

If some of the benefits of the Transit and Sprinter platforms could be combined, I’d feel better about the large monetary investment. However, both on their own have many cons that I can’t justify.

I'm with you. 100%. The engine on the MB is a disappointment. My Crosstrek has 182-hp. and the MB V-6 diesel has 188. Mediocre performance with the cost of a diesel.

But, 2" lift with 35" tires would be enough to get me to most of the places I want to go. There are ECU upgrades available for the larger tire sizes but it's not cheap. Then I remember that a 200hp, 330ftlb diesel would be spinning those 35s and trying to move up to 9000 lbs. It reminds me so much of the 1985 4x4 S10 Blazer with the 83hp I-4 that I had and the driving experience.

Chevy Express with the V8 and a trip to Ujoint Offroad with plans for an eventual pop-top? Maybe?

 

[Trump]

Chevy Express with the V8 and a trip to Ujoint Offroad with plans for an eventual pop-top? Maybe?

I was thinking E350 RV platform. 7.3 Diesel. U-Joint treatment. 37" Supersingles. But... I'm out west. Back east, you'd probably have better luck piloting an oil tanker. Maybe an E350 Sportmobile would be a better choice for you. Winter alpine camping is in my plans... I'm trying to avoid popups.

 

[Trump]

 

[Greg]

I was thinking E350 RV platform. 7.3 Diesel. U-Joint treatment. 37" Supersingles. But... I'm out west. Back east, you'd probably have better luck piloting an oil tanker. Maybe an E350 Sportmobile would be a better choice for you. Winter alpine camping is in my plans... I'm trying to avoid popups.

I've got to balance interstate time with offroad. The occasional rest stop nap when plans change and/or when I continue past my planned stop to get more time to spend out west. It's been tough trying to find the sweet spot where I haven't given up too much of one thing to get another.

 

[Greg]

Found these for the E350 cutaway.
https://www.cabbacks.com/ford

 

[Trump]

Found these for the E350 cutaway.
https://www.cabbacks.com/ford

What's your thought about the cabback? I figured you'd want a pass-through to living space.

 

[Trump]

Oh... and confirmed. Friday, while leaving Park City via Parley's Pass during a snow storm, road conditions were sketchy. Inbound traffic was at a standstill. A 4x4 Sprinter was near sideways in the left lane and caused a complete roadblock. If the pavement was too much of a challenge, the roads we were on would be out of the question.

 

[Greg]

What's your thought about the cabback? I figured you'd want a pass-through to living space.

Yeah. Not the direction I want to go. The long and difficult road to an extended cab 4x4 pickup. I went looking for a supplier of fiberglass van bodies. Start with an empty shell like a Field Van's E350. Field Van won't sell one. Don't blame them. Too much of a demand and a limited supply for the pop-up body. Found those and figured if not me then maybe someone else.

Found these also but also not a direction I want to go. Too bulky but it could work as a good base to make something like the Starflyte van.

https://www.unicell.com/van-bodies/aerocell/

 

[Trump]

Yeah. Not the direction I want to go. The long and difficult road to an extended cab 4x4 pickup. I went looking for a supplier of fiberglass van bodies. Start with an empty shell like a Field Van's E350. Field Van won't sell one. Don't blame them. Too much of a demand and a limited supply for the pop-up body. Found those and figured if not me then maybe someone else.

Found these also but also not a direction I want to go. Too bulky but it could work as a good base to make something like the Starflyte van.

https://www.unicell.com/van-bodies/aerocell/

Gotcha. Yeah, that's something... of course, if we are looking to the aftermarket to build a van, could we just wait out what will be developed for this Transit Trail?

 

[Greg]

Gotcha. Yeah, that's something... of course, if we are looking to the aftermarket to build a van, could we just wait out what will be developed for this Transit Trail?

I really doubt if there's any changes to the Transit's body for the Trail package and there's already pretty decent support for the Transit which will carry over into it. Except the lift, exterior trim pieces, the wider wheel base, and the roof vent, everything is available as an option for the standard Transit. The factory warranty on these addon is the most appealing part.

Lift? Van compass.
Exterior trim? Meh. My next 3D printer project could be Transit Trail raptor lights.
Wider wheel base? Black Rhino Sequoia.
Roof vent? Plenty to choose from. The demo uses a Maxxair Fan



https://www.blackrhinowheels.com/off-road-wheels-rims-sequoia-br003.php

https://www.thebugwall.com/products...ing-door-insect-screen?variant=39268261101776

https://flarespace.com/collections/flarespace-ford-transit-148

https://www.rovervans.com/products

https://diyvan.com/collections/transit?page=1

 

[Greg]

I really doubt if there's any changes to the Transit's body for the Trail package

or...

If there is a change in the 2023 body to accommodate the Trail package that it will be in all Transit vans. Having two different bodies to manufacture would be a logistical nightmare.