Really Toyota? Really?

sfsmedic said:
Sometimes I think people just expect to much. Remember when a manufacturer starts going for hardcore comfort on the road they immediately stop making them trail worthy and you now have a car in the guise of a truck. I'll take my reliable work horse of a trail rig any day.
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I will jump in on this and just say that any and every vehicle out there has some known issues. Seriously - google any vehicle you can think of and it will have at least one common, naggin problem. At least there seems to be a fix for this issue... even though we can all agree Toyota (Jeep, Land Rover, Chevy, Ford, Dodge... ect...) should have fixed it already :)
 
Gallowbraid said:
Absolutely, thank you! I'll be in touch when I order the bushing and get home from California.

I think it's interesting how it seems to affect different vehicles at different times or even not at all. I would assume that it has to do with all the variables, the metallurgical make up of the parts, the tolerances in the casting of the housing, viscosity of the gear oil in the diff, etc, etc. There are owners out there who have claimed the problem at as low as 500 miles. I had absolutely no vibration up until two or three weeks ago. It started small and has gotten progressively worse. So that's 15,000 miles with nothing and then the problem began.
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What's funny is I've worked for Toyota in service since 2004, and had read about it a bunch of times, but had never seen it in person.....until the day after I made my post.
We had a 15' Tacoma that we installed an Old Man Emu lift on the last week of November, and it came in on Monday with a cyclical noise/vibration that
comes and goes. Can you guess the culprit :D
 
Dave said:
Money and bean counters.
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Then there's Ford's seatback failures, the Explorer's suspension design, Ford's A-pillar design on a number of trucks prior to this generation, GM's...well the list goes on and on for manufacturing and design defects that have killed scores of people. It is all summed up with a story about Edwin Land, the guy who invented the process to polarize glass and also invented the Polaroid camera (this is the very short version, you should read his biography): https://www.polarization.com/land/land.html The biggest reason why we don't have that safety system even today is that the auto manufactures didn't want to add less than $2.00 of cost per car back then. The same money over safety, except when legislated into reality still exists today and will continue to exist.
 
dorton said:
What's funny is I've worked for Toyota in service since 2004, and had read about it a bunch of times, but had never seen it in person.....until the day after I made my post.
We had a 15' Tacoma that we installed an Old Man Emu lift on the last week of November, and it came in on Monday with a cyclical noise/vibration that
comes and goes. Can you guess the culprit :D
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Curious what route you/the owner went for the fix. There's talk of a new needle bearing from Toyota that is slightly longer than the previous one to provide a little more support and do away with the vibration. I'm still leaning toward the ECGS bushing replacement, but if I can get Toyota to repair it with a better part under warranty..well...I'm frugal and efficient (read, cheap and lazy).
 
Gallowbraid said:
Curious what route you/the owner went for the fix. There's talk of a new needle bearing from Toyota that is slightly longer than the previous one to provide a little more support and do away with the vibration. I'm still leaning toward the ECGS bushing replacement, but if I can get Toyota to repair it with a better part under warranty..well...I'm frugal and efficient (read, cheap and lazy).
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It was still under factory warranty, so we put a factory replacement part in. The original was installed backwards from how the repair manual actually states(markings facing opposite direction).
 
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