Make Sure You Pay All Your Traffic Tickets!

[Optimistic Paranoid]

This topic is ridiculous. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Break the law and you should probably avoid going out into public, or hitting the roadways... or, I don't know, maybe just stop breaking the law? I'm sure I have had my info checked hundreds of times in the last decade... I've not been stopped once, and I for one am happy to see actual dirtbags get put away. Don't confuse good ol' American freedom with freedom from responsibilities and the law.

Glad it's all black and white for you.

Nobody here uses (legally) medical marijuana and sometimes has to travel to states that haven't yet decriminalized it? No one sometimes CCWs in a state that their permit isn't valid for?

Some of us see shades of gray . . .

 

[Trump]

Glad it's all black and white for you.

Nobody here uses (legally) medical marijuana and sometimes has to travel to states that haven't yet decriminalized it? No one sometimes CCWs in a state that their permit isn't valid for?

Some of us see shades of gray . . .

So, trafficking/possession of drugs and illegally carrying firearms... all of which can be felonies depending on the state. Help me out here, but that doesn't seem to be a shade of gray at all. Be mad at other states laws if you want, but they aren't optional. Roll the dice and risk the punishment if you disagree, but I'm staying away from this "gray" area.

But for the sake of this situation. If you happen to walk out of a suspected drug house under police surveillance in possession of drugs and having unpaid tickets resulting in open warrants for your arrest... I'm not going to worry one bit about my rights being violated if the supreme court rules against you. That's typically the kind of stuff you see on an episode of COPS, not the desk of a supreme court justice.

 

[Optimistic Paranoid]

Guess you're a conservative on odd AND even numbered days.

 

[Trump]

Guess you're a conservative on odd AND even numbered days.

...Or, maybe just a law abiding citizen?

Following the law has nothing to do with my personal feelings about some, nor my political leanings. Your assumption is incorrect.

 

[verdesard0g]

1. We live in society, we have to follow the rules.
2. Rules were made to be broken.

 

[ventura911]

Don't confuse probable cause (arrest) and reasonable suspicion (stop). Two different standards.

And add that law enforcement often makes consensual encounters:

“Hi, how’re you doing today? Can I talk to you for a minute?”

During the subsequent voluntary conversation, the officer can gather more information that can turn contacts into detentions:

“I’m Deputy Smith. What’s your name? John Jones? Okay. Are you on probation or parole? Probation, huh? What for?” (and leads to a search per his or her probation terms) -or- “You’re not? That’s good. Where are you coming from tonight? (Truth or lie may lead to some more questions, a request to search for weapons, drugs, etc.).

During the contact, the deputy might notice signs and symptoms of the person being under the influence of illegal drugs, find drug paraphernalia, or find the person has warrants, which leads to arrest and search incident to the arrest.

Ultimately, all the facts that the deputy articulates in the report, often coupled with body camera video, is then reviewed by the district attorney’s office and then by a court and/or jury. It’s not just the cop’s actions that lead to the Supreme Court decision.

Don’t do bad things, know your rights, and be respectful and things go well for all.

 

[ventura911]

Something that is visible to the public is not a violation to be scanned.

Back in the old days, a deputy could recognize a local bad guy’s horse in front of the saloon, lie in wait, and capture the desperado when he stumbles out. This is just evolution.

Worried about your plate being read in a public place? Don’t do bad things or leave yer horse at the hideout.

 

[Dave]

And add that law enforcement often makes consensual encounters:

“Hi, how’re you doing today? Can I talk to you for a minute?”

During the subsequent voluntary conversation, the officer can gather more information that can turn contacts into detentions:

“I’m Deputy Smith. What’s your name? John Jones? Okay. Are you on probation or parole? Probation, huh? What for?” (and leads to a search per his or her probation terms) -or- “You’re not? That’s good. Where are you coming from tonight? (Truth or lie may lead to some more questions, a request to search for weapons, drugs, etc.).

During the contact, the deputy might notice signs and symptoms of the person being under the influence of illegal drugs, find drug paraphernalia, or find the person has warrants, which leads to arrest and search incident to the arrest.

Ultimately, all the facts that the deputy articulates in the report, often coupled with body camera video, is then reviewed by the district attorney’s office and then by a court and/or jury. It’s not just the cop’s actions that lead to the Supreme Court decision.

Don’t do bad things, know your rights, and be respectful and things go well for all.

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[Dave]

Back in the old days, a deputy could recognize a local bad guy’s horse in front of the saloon, lie in wait, and capture the desperado when he stumbles out. This is just evolution.

Worried about your plate being read in a public place? Don’t do bad things or leave yer horse at the hideout.