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jscusmcvet

jscusmcvet

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In the midst of doing some reading on different kayak types and trying to figure out what might suit my application. It would be super easy to just grab a rec boat off the shelf however I rarely do things the easy way...

So here is what I am thinking at this moment. Joe has his little sit on top, Ann has her new rec boat sit in. I have a lifetime of paddling canoes... of every shape and size and on every type of water one can take an open canoe on... I have one short season in a whitewater kayak. As I move to kayaks to stick with the family, I am looking into several boats. I believe I have zeroed in on a sit on top style, that is versatile, capable of mild whitewater (class I, II and little bits of III), and yet one that I can spend all day in on the lazy rivers and lakes that will likely comprise most of our waterborne activities. Here is a list of boats that I would like any feedback on that you have to offer. There are used versions of some of these boats around but that is not essential at the moment. At the moment let's take price out of the equation and just talk about the right fit for my purpose. If you have any experience with these boats or suggestions for similar styles, please chime in. At this time I am not interested in sit in or closed deck boats.

https://www.liquidlogickayaks.com/product/LRCO1015.html Liquid Logic Coupe XP

http://www.dagger.com/us/products/roam-95 This also comes in a 11.5 foot model

http://www.oceankayak.com/kayaks/single_kayaks/scrambler_11/

http://www.oceankayak.com/kayaks/single_kayaks/frenzy/

http://www.dagger.com/us/products/torrent-100

https://www.riversports.com/rs/prod...-Sit-on-Top-Whitewater-Kayak-Creek-Boat-River
 
Also considering staying the canoe route and picking up a small solo boat that can meet the crietria above.... hmmm...
 
If I was buying one based on your criteria I'd look at Jackson. I have a Native Ultimate FX 15 tandem and many times have wished I'd have gone with the Jackson Big Tuna. YMMV.
 
I was just at Get outdoors in Greensboro last week! I picked up a Liquid Logic Versa board to play around on. Anyways they had a few new and used jacksons in stock!
 
I just picked up the Jackson Traverse 10 to replace my Liquid logic remix xp and the butt ugly Jackson Rogue. The Traverse is more white water oriented and will still carry a lot of gear for extended paddle trips.

-Andy
 
Grumps said:
I just picked up the Jackson Traverse 10 to replace my Liquid logic remix xp and the butt ugly Jackson Rogue. The Traverse is more white water oriented and will still carry a lot of gear for extended paddle trips.

-Andy
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I will be interested to hear your thoughts on this boat for sure. What made you want to move away from the Remix XP?

BushHead said:
My biggest factor for picking the ultimate was seat comfort. I grabbed a demo ultimate 12, I can sit in it all day and then take the seat out and use it in camp. Not the best for whitewater but I can make it work up to class 3.

http://nativewatercraft.com/product/ultimate-12/
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Matt414 said:
I was just at Get outdoors in Greensboro last week! I picked up a Liquid Logic Versa board to play around on. Anyways they had a few new and used jacksons in stock!
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Matt and Matt - what I really need is to get Jonah's kayak on some moving water, to get a better idea of whether I "need" something that can handle WW a little better or if I am just buying into the marketing (this has been known to happen). Looks like an excuse for a river paddle sometime - so when are you guys available? and where? If we did something easy like Bear Creek or Deep River - even sections of the Cape Fear - I thnk we could make it a family thing if you want. Will need to check water levels.
 
The Remix XP is a solid boat, easy to control and good capacity for gear. My only complaint is still water paddling; it's a tug boat on flat water. I wanted a kayak that wouldn't wear me out on slow rivers.

-Andy
 
We're still about 800 miles from home right now, but should be in tomorrow. We can paddle almost anytime (if there's water) and you can try out my boats. There's not much whitewater local, just the one class 3 (level) on deep river near my house... everything else is flat. Just let me know and we can do whatever you like.
 
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Matt - whenever is good for you guys we'll make it work. Joe paddled Jonah's boat today and loved it, so his little blue sit on top might have been a waste of $... but for that it has him hooked on paddling...
 
Grumps said:
The Remix XP is a solid boat, easy to control and good capacity for gear. My only complaint is still water paddling; it's a tug boat on flat water. I wanted a kayak that wouldn't wear me out on slow rivers.

-Andy
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Andy can you also include the Rogue in this comparison? I am beginning to lean more to a closed deck crossover, after much research. Any other thoughts you have might help. Thanks

John
 
The Rogue is as solid as the Remix. Jackson discontinued the Rogue last year and replaced it with the Traverse. If you can find one at a dealer, I wouldn't hesitate to pick it up. The Rogue is faster on still water than the Remix, due to the hull design. The Remix has a better skeg operating mechanism.

You really can't go wrong with either boat. They are both available in 9 or 10 foot, so check you paddling weight and gear you want to carry.

-Andy
 
Thanks Andy. I am looking diligently for used boats... and cataloging a bit of what each one offers. We'll see what rears its head on the used search before I jump at paying for a new.
 
John, you will probably find less Jacksons on the used market than the Liquid Logic boats. The cross over boats come up less frequently.

-Andy
 
Got me somethin....
http://americanadventurist.com/forum/threads/new-boat.4035/#post-70607

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Grumps said:
The Remix XP is a solid boat, easy to control and good capacity for gear. My only complaint is still water paddling; it's a tug boat on flat water. I wanted a kayak that wouldn't wear me out on slow rivers.

-Andy
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TugBoat? I've heard that before.
 
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