Thanks VW!
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Scott
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That was my exact thought too Dave lol... now, I am also in agreement with Bob here.. this is not going to be good for the small diesel car market. I bet GM goes under the microscope with the cruze diesel next.Possibly. Imagine the horror when all those Eco nazi yuppies realize they've been rolling coal this whole time...
From customer comments I've heard over the last week, the whole industry is under the microscope for this one. If the worlds largest automaker isn't above such tactics, why would any other manufacturer be any different, guilt by association.
Current GM Duramax engines are prone to puffs of smoke when the particulate trap starts a regeneration cycle, I've been asked by a customer if the computer is switching over to the "test" phase in a GM computer when this happens. I wanted to tell him that when I wrote the code for the ECM I did a better job of hiding it than VW engineers did, but I still couldn't get around the puff of smoke, so I made up an excuse for it! How the hell do I know? It took the Fed's 8 years to catch on to VW's tricks.
Current GM Duramax engines are prone to puffs of smoke when the particulate trap starts a regeneration cycle, I've been asked by a customer if the computer is switching over to the "test" phase in a GM computer when this happens. I wanted to tell him that when I wrote the code for the ECM I did a better job of hiding it than VW engineers did, but I still couldn't get around the puff of smoke, so I made up an excuse for it! How the hell do I know? It took the Fed's 8 years to catch on to VW's tricks.
Mojoe Outfitters
Adventurist
I understand that there is an intrinsic trade-off between fuel efficiency and power/torque on one hand and NOx on the other with small diesel engines. In other words the trade off is between CO2 and NOx, Say goodbye to Diesel! CO2 and NOx are both just as evil in the eyes of the EPA/CARB
When Volkswagon comes out with a with a software fix recall, it will necessarily turn these German engineered cars into Yugos. Anyone who actually takes their car in for the recall will cut their car's value in half. I foresee a new "cash for clunkers" program that will use taxpayer money to force the buyback all these VW's and crush them. Otherwise, only eco-nazis will voluntarily obey the recall.
Cam
When Volkswagon comes out with a with a software fix recall, it will necessarily turn these German engineered cars into Yugos. Anyone who actually takes their car in for the recall will cut their car's value in half. I foresee a new "cash for clunkers" program that will use taxpayer money to force the buyback all these VW's and crush them. Otherwise, only eco-nazis will voluntarily obey the recall.
Cam
Well, as someone who's been called an eco-Nazi (although not a yuppie), I'm certainly pissed. Just when I thought we were finally on the edge of a breakthrough in making small turbodiesels a mainstream powerplant choice in the U.S., VW blows it for us.
I will be curious to see what effect on power and economy the correct ECU tune has on those engines. Will they go from 50 mpg to 30? Or 48?
I will be curious to see what effect on power and economy the correct ECU tune has on those engines. Will they go from 50 mpg to 30? Or 48?
Just read a news article that the French are considering a ban on small diesel engines all together, or at least in Paris specifically.
The back story there is a few years back the French encouraged their citizens to buy small diesels from domestic car companies...now they are looking to outlaw those very same vehicles!
The back story there is a few years back the French encouraged their citizens to buy small diesels from domestic car companies...now they are looking to outlaw those very same vehicles!
Scott
Adventurist
And it starts... First France, next us. I'm pretty sure that the small diesel car market will dissapear in the next few years. CARB and the EPA will have a field day with this one.. It's CARB's perogative to see that every person in the US is driving an electric car, asap... I am about 1/4 of the way through the book "1984" by George Orwell, and it's amazing how spot on he was so far.. It may have taken longer to happen, but it's happening.. Big Brother is watching you. They know what's best for you.