Missing 411, Abductions, & Search and Rescue

TACMEDIC

Adventurist
Greetings,

Well last week, I was listening to a radio program and heard a guy named David Paulides talk about a big picture of missing hikers and hunters that ended with many unexplainable questions. It sounds like this guy has some experience (20 years as a cop) and has conducted a good amount of research (victims, SAR, Forest Rangers, etc.)

The crazy part is that I have attended a couple Search & Rescue Academies and have worked with SAR and have heard some case studies that sound like the events outlined in the Missing 411 books. You can also listen to recorded interviews on YouTube.

From the Interweb:

The Abduction conspiracy involves people going missing from national parks and secluded areas in North America and parts of Europe. Author and researcher David Paulides noticed very specific “cluster spots” where many of these disappearances happened, as reported in his book “The Missing 411: North America and Beyond”.

Paulides also noticed that in almost all of the cases of someone going missing, bad weather would usually immediately follow, hampering any search efforts. Search dogs would suddenly become useless when trying to pick up a scent. Many of those who had gone missing were reported as being right next to the last person who saw them – as if they had just vanished into thin air.

This guy does not seem to present any crazy conclusions or any conclusions at all, but just presents certain cases that are hard to explain.

Well has anyone else heard of this?

Thank you,
 
Fascinating albeit scary subject matter. First I’ve heard of it.

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Not sure if it was the same guy, but I remember hearing an interview with someone on the subject on Coast to Coast with George Noory a while back.
 
Yes, It was on Coast to Coast. I then was stuck in traffic and played some of the other older interviews from YouTube on my phone.

Some are strange. A hunter goes missing from the group and his boots are found and then his body is found 12 miles away???
 
Some are strange. A hunter goes missing from the group and his boots are found and then his body is found 12 miles away???

That’s like when you’re a 10 year old at YMCA camp scary campfire story stuff right there :eek:
 
That’s like when you’re a 10 year old at YMCA camp scary campfire story stuff right there :eek:

The local YMCA camp here told campers if they carried a rock all the way up a certain ridge during a hike they could trade the rock for ice cream at the top. Bigger rock equals more ice cream. There's a pile of rocks at the top of the ridge but I don't think anyone got any ice cream. I prefer ice cream to mysterious abductions.
 
Where's Mulder and Scully when you need em?

Interesting to see the all too familiar coincidences that happens. Coast to coast does have some tin foil hattery going on, entertaining as it may be.
 
Great, I camp alone quite a bit. Had just about forgotten the mexican chupacabra raising the hair on the back of my neck now I have to worry about 411 abduction. Red Dodge Ram, cabover camper towing a Cherokee. Be very careful walking into my camp after dusk, just sayin!! :eek:
 
Great, I camp alone quite a bit. Had just about forgotten the mexican chupacabra raising the hair on the back of my neck now I have to worry about 411 abduction. Red Dodge Ram, cabover camper towing a Cherokee. Be very careful walking into my camp after dusk, just sayin!! :eek:

They don’t walk...
 
We've got Penny our Boston Terrier/Blue Heeler mix...nothing gets within a 1/4 mile of my camp without it getting her attention and her barking at it...incessantly...don't believe me, camp next to me sometime!:cool: :dog

Sometimes she just barks for the hell of it....or does she...maybe there is something only she knows about.:confused:
 
Yes, It was on Coast to Coast. I then was stuck in traffic and played some of the other older interviews from YouTube on my phone.

Some are strange. A hunter goes missing from the group and his boots are found and then his body is found 12 miles away???

"Paradoxical undressing" in fatal hypothermia.

The couple that got lost on Bear Camp Road in Oregon in Nov. 2006. The husband had walked about 16.2 miles before succumbing to hypothermia. Hikers on the Appalachian Trail will average maybe 12-16 miles a day with occasionally having a few 20-25 mile days (FAQ: "How far do hikers walk each day?"). So it's not unreasonable for a hunter who is physically fit to walk 12 miles in a day before succumbing to hypothermia. Very likely if the hunter had a few days to walk before succumbing.
 
We've got Penny our Boston Terrier/Blue Heeler mix...nothing gets within a 1/4 mile of my camp without it getting her attention and her barking at it...incessantly...don't believe me, camp next to me sometime!:cool: :dog

Sometimes she just barks for the hell of it....or does she...maybe there is something only she knows about.:confused:

I have Bailie and Charlie two Border Collies. They do the same thing.
 
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