33s, 35s, 37s or some rocks and a stock 4Runner?

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No real analysis in the video, but interesting to see each vehicle tackle this obstacle with slightly different configurations.

 
Interesting. They should have brought some marker paint, they could have striped the road they built for the 4Runner!:rolleyes: (Rockcrawler humor) I'm not sure what the trail etiquette is on the east coast, on the west coast, we ask that you take down any rocks that were stacked once you are done with it.

I've got bad news, either those tires are 44's or that drop isn't 3'.
 
bob91yj said:
Interesting. They should have brought some marker paint, they could have striped the road they built for the 4Runner!:rolleyes: (Rockcrawler humor)
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We call that "making a roman road"

I'm not sure what the trail etiquette is on the east coast, on the west coast, we ask that you take down any rocks that were stacked once you are done with it.
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It's the same here too. Not that many people do it. Very few people understand "etiquette" any more.
 
I roll on 33's and would have been about 1/2 a vehicle's width over toward the driver. My paltry lift would mean my passenger rear tire would be well stuffed. And I've already dented my tailpipe, which I am certain is the culprit for the loss of 2mpg.
 
A good chunk of the wheeling back east tends to be limited to offroad parks, and etiquette tends to go out the window. They tend to attract a lot of people who think offroading is "tearing it up". Yes, it's a generalization.
 
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BoldAdventure said:
A good chunk of the wheeling back east tends to be limited to offroad parks, and etiquette tends to go out the window. They tend to attract a lot of people who think offroading is "tearing it up". Yes, it's a generalization.
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That's a Midwest thing too.
 
My thoughts exactly. Let's turn them around and see who goes up it. Size matters. To a certain degree anyway. When I had my 2003 TJ I really did not see much difference between 33's and 35's as far as capability when rock crawling. I have learned though that with the added wheelbase on the LJ, I would really need to go up to 35's or 37's to get back to the capability I had on my TJ. I am not smart enough to figure out why that is just my experience... and I can't afford the work to the LJ to go up to those sizes, so... bunny trails for me.
 
jscusmcvet said:
My thoughts exactly. Let's turn them around and see who goes up it. Size matters. To a certain degree anyway. When I had my 2003 TJ I really did not see much difference between 33's and 35's as far as capability when rock crawling. I have learned though that with the added wheelbase on the LJ, I would really need to go up to 35's or 37's to get back to the capability I had on my TJ. I am not smart enough to figure out why that is just my experience... and I can't afford the work to the LJ to go up to those sizes, so... bunny trails for me.
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That's why I'm looking into a "Tummy tuck." I did the 1" body lift, just need a new slimmer belly pan. Two advantages, gains 2.5" of ground clearance (that's like going up 5" in tire diameter) plus it's completely smooth unlike the factory ribber pan. So with my 33" and an extra 2" of clearance it will be like having the break-over angle of 36-37" tires. Also less likely to get hung up on a "rib" like I did in Utah where I had to winch myself downhill. Also, when integrated with an engine skid it pretty much protects the entire underside. If you have a stock fuel tank you can get a kit to raise it up a ½" too. I'm running the 31 gallon GenRight tank in mine so that wouldn't work for me. I just like the idea of a smaller low-center-of-gravity build on 33's with solid break-over angle rather than bumping up to 35s or 37s which create a whole litany of problems.
 
I did tuck my xfer case and it is mated to a full engine/trans skid. It is not a full tummy tuck, but tucks it up an inch higher. Only required a 1/2" BL, no MML and no driveline changes. Always turns out to be a $ versus use issue... do you really want to spend the scratch to get over that particular obstacle? Earlier in my jeeping life the answer was yes... now not so much... who knows what's next.
 
Be careful with the gas tank lift, if one of the vacuum connectors on top of the tank gets broken, the only way to truly fix it is to replace the fuel tank.
 
jscusmcvet said:
My thoughts exactly. Let's turn them around and see who goes up it. Size matters. To a certain degree anyway. When I had my 2003 TJ I really did not see much difference between 33's and 35's as far as capability when rock crawling. I have learned though that with the added wheelbase on the LJ, I would really need to go up to 35's or 37's to get back to the capability I had on my TJ. I am not smart enough to figure out why that is just my experience... and I can't afford the work to the LJ to go up to those sizes, so... bunny trails for me.
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I dunno. I tend to go up a lot of things on my 33s people can't on their 35s and like to tell me I can't do. Ask @BlkWgn lol
 
sfsmedic said:
I dunno. I tend to go up a lot of things on my 33s people can't on their 35s and like to tell me I can't do. Ask @BlkWgn lol
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You da man. Experience goes a long way...
I can make it often also, especially when those running 35's or bigger are in their brand new JKU's they have never driven off road... BUT apples to apples some vehicles need the clearance offered by bigger tires more than others... is my point.
 
Dean said:
That's why I'm looking into a "Tummy tuck." I did the 1" body lift, just need a new slimmer belly pan. Two advantages, gains 2.5" of ground clearance (that's like going up 5" in tire diameter) plus it's completely smooth unlike the factory ribber pan. So with my 33" and an extra 2" of clearance it will be like having the break-over angle of 36-37" tires. Also less likely to get hung up on a "rib" like I did in Utah where I had to winch myself downhill. Also, when integrated with an engine skid it pretty much protects the entire underside. If you have a stock fuel tank you can get a kit to raise it up a ½" too. I'm running the 31 gallon GenRight tank in mine so that wouldn't work for me. I just like the idea of a smaller low-center-of-gravity build on 33's with solid break-over angle rather than bumping up to 35s or 37s which create a whole litany of problems.
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Dean, have you looked into the Nth Degree Tummy Tucker skids? No body lift needed, they made a bump in the plate about 24" wide for the drivetrain. Planning on getting one for my LJ in the spring in preparation for Red Clay Rally 2018.
 
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