The Random Thoughts Thread

Gallowbraid said:
I'm in Habersham as well, North end of the county right on the White county border off 17. Small world. Sounds like we have the same travel philosophy, we should get together some time.
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Ok. I'm over by Lake Russell WMA. Close enough to it that I wander through it a couple times a week just to keep the Jeep dusty. PM incoming.
 
Common sense does exist!

The Navy has been somewhat unique amongst the armed forces as our job description (rate) was part of our rank, ie, I was an MM1 (SW), to other sailors, they know that I was a Machinist Mate First Class (Enlisted Surface Warfare Specialist), Dave is an HMCS, Senior Chief Petty Officer Hospital Corpsman...simple right? Recently the Navy decided to eliminate the rate designation as part of our rank, sailors generally take great pride in their "rates" and this decision did not go over well with most sailors. Apparently, the folks in the ivory towers saw the error of their ways and we are going back to the way things were, political correctness be damned!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-traditional-job-titles-after-objections.html
 
Best part is the CNO throwing the MCPON under the bus about the whole bad idea...

... stay classy beltway warriors.

:underthebus
 
Dave said:
Best part is the CNO throwing the MCPON under the bus about the whole bad idea...

... stay classy beltway warriors.

:underthebus
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It was my understanding he was on the committee that purposed the whole change, and the CNO inherited the whole situation. If true, a strong hand is needed guiding that bus.
 
Dave said:
My point is the boss throwing a subordinate under the bus is always in poor taste.
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Agreed, but I will admit that at that level I'd rather have hate directed to the right person. Plenty more emenetly qualified individuals that can take that spot over... One that is charged with being the voice of the enlisted.
 
Trump said:
Agreed, but I will admit that at that level I'd rather have hate directed to the right person. Plenty more emenetly qualified individuals that can take that spot over... One that is charged with being the voice of the enlisted.
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Being a former Army grunt I'm not sure if I understand all this but... I think someone is giving someone else the finger?
If that's the case I like it.
God bless America


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:deadhorse if I'm not mistaken corrective action was taken to the satisfaction of the Force. Or is AAV charged with indicting the butt-snorkeler who enabled this disaster?

If not FIDO... before someone starts posting butt-hurt memes.
 
I just want justice for all these HM's that have been crying into their pillows every night. Then, during the day they take out on me with that dang Med Hit List. :)
 
Gallowbraid said:
Given that all the areas mentioned are my home stomping grounds I'm a bit embarrassed by this article. There are times I struggle to define the difference between overlanding, camping and just taking a drive in the woods. This article is very much just a drive in the woods.

Bell Mountain is a tourist attraction. If you search YouTube you'll find video evidence of how technical the path used to be, it's now been graded, paved and neutered to allow Prius owners to gawk at the graffiti and beer bottles placed at the top of the hill by high school kids on weekends.

Charlie Creek Road is just that, a road. There's nothing technical or difficult about it at all. Growing up in this area Charlie Creek Road would have been considered a prime example of a well graded and accessible path. The dirt road I lived on as a kid saw less maintenance than Charlie Creek does. Years ago this was a bit of a technical path, but the power company has made sure to keep it well graded in recent years. Does have a cool water crossing near Tate City though.

Tray Mountain being mentioned is unfortunate. I was just up there yesterday and it's just as over used and trashed as always. The more publicity this FS Road (it's not a "trail") gets the more yahoos with a Jeep show up to try their hand at traversing it. It is, again, just a road. There's one washed out section headed down the back side that can flex stock suspension a bit, but the rest of Tray Mountain / Indian Grave Gap / Corbin Creek is composed of well graded gravel roads. The campsites are over used and full of trash, I took a friend camping there a couple years back and after getting a fire started we were greeted by live ammunition in the fire ring. If it weren't for the rental cabins, old bison ranch (yep) and Appalachian Trail parking lot at the top the FS would have shut down this road years ago due to public abuse. There were a number of laminated signs hanging yesterday asking people politely not to leave the road. Ironically there were several Jeeps parked just beyond the ruts off the road behind these signs. This is why we can't have nice things on the east coast.

West coast folks have no idea how good they have it with their BLM lands. If you want an off road experience here on the east coast you have to pay to play:

Durhamtown
Windrock

Unfortunately off road parks like these are the only "exploration" experiences many east coast individuals will have for their entire life. I realize I'm blessed to travel the way I do and that it's not in everyone's cards to see the country. Unfortunately I think the term "overlanding" is being watered down by those who will never leave the confines of their state lines. Camping is restricted to campgrounds that require reservations and often come with full electrical hookups and sometimes even internet access. There are areas of wilderness, but they are few and far between.

The world keeps getting smaller...

The article would have been better if it focused on the camaraderie, the friendships and relationships forged from taking "camping trips in groups" here on the east coast. "The Overlanding Community" for me is more about the people and less about the place. The right group of people around a camp fire is just as good as the right group around a restaurant table, the parking lot of a local outdoor store or over the airwaves of a 2M radio (although admittedly I prefer the campfire.) Meeting strangers in towns along the way, conversing with the waitress at the local dive restaurant or a random conversation with a fellow hiker on the trail is often the highlight of the journey for me. This article glossed over that and focused on very limited locales and rig photography.
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First excellent, not that I'd disagree with you, I'm to old and your way too big to argue with.
I'd just like to add my .02 worth (wisdom would be stretching it).
I've found that no matter where I camp (overland) I'm amazed and thrilled the first time, with a few exceptions, one being the Grand Canyon, takes my breath away every damn time! Example, my first trip east (expo east) to the Appalachian trail it rained (almost a hurricane?) the whole two weeks. Still it was new to me and beautiful.
One of my points being is the first time to the desert in so. Cal. Was really cool, but after a few trips it was just the desert. A different place in the desert, still the desert. What changed was like you or the other guys said was the group around the [emoji91] campfire. That's what made it special for me.
My second point is...shhh don't tell anyone.
There's a couple other places that might be worth exploring.
Across the border, either of them!
You want to get lost in the woods try Canada. Those boys up there know camping and fishing! And BIG you can really get lost, I mean REALLY lost! Bring a Boy Scout.
Or where I am right now Mexico, like our next President so famously said "and some of them, I'm sure are nice people".
It's not scary, Chicago, Washington DC, Compton, CA. That's SCARY!
Mexico has mountains, deserts, Ruins from, well from a longtime ago that you can hike around in. And beaches, oh the beaches, so awesome! And all cheap I'm currently in hammock on a beach camping with electricity for $7.50 US a day.
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Come on down and see some new stuff. The people are as friendly as Canadian's, they do speak a different language tho. Kind a like Montreal only different.



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So....
"Random thoughts thread"?

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I'm sitting here, thinking most of the day "random thoughts" as it where?

Who started this thread?
First I thought "random" and guessed @TangoBlue? Right? Nope
Then I guessed "thoughts" @Dave? Nope (to dave's credit he did add the second post)
Nope it was my uncle @bob91yj ???
Who would have guessed?
So, I started readying some this 3.5 year old stuff, it's like mining pure GOLD! Should keep me busy for a couple more hours or until my battery dies.
Thanks @bob91yj !


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