My desire for a Vanagon

The sand guys in SoCal/Glamis run 2276cc VW's all day long, under somewhat brutal conditions.
On sand rails?

That's different than pushing a bus along in stop and go traffic. The strain on the drive train is different and expectancy of reliability is different.

One of the most bullet-proof Type-1 style motors you can run is a 1914cc due to the smaller crank size if you're using an AS41 case. If you're using an aftermarket "bubble" all aluminium case then it's easier to get away with a longer stroke (I'm running one of those cases), except none of your sheetmetal will fit without modification.

After dicking with aircooled VW's for over 20 years if (when) I ever get my dream Type 2 I'm going to run a 1914 with a milder cam, lifter and carb setup, then drive it all day long (slowly in the right lane). ;)
 
My first vehicle, bought for $800 of summer job money in 1984, was a 1966 VW split window, California model... 5 foot sunroof and the oval windows along the side/roof area. When I bought it it has 3" black shag "fur" carpet throughout the interior... I spent the summer ripping all that out and rebuilding the interior, using wood paneling and building a bench seat for the back that folded into a bed... Yeah - I was 17 OK????:cool: I drove that van for my entire senior year of high school and a little while when in the suck. I had some great trips up and down the east coast in that thing. It was slow, unreliable, uncomfortable and frankly dangerous as hell. BUT I loved it for few years. Then I sold it for, well, NOTHING and have regretted it ever since. Back before the internet they were just crappy minivans.

I would however, rock a Subaru powerded synchro Westy for the rest of my life... If I could afford one... so Jay, I am right there with you bud.
 
Well brothers from another mother, a friend sent me this thread and I had to chime in as I've had this conversation (in my head at least) about a thousand times.

I own a '69 VW Westy, based in Atlanta, and travel all over the Southeast. I mention that because weather and traffic matters. I love this platform for adventure but there's no denying its dated.

A couple of things mentioned by others:

1. The "park and cook" enabled by the pass through is huge. In the South the weather changes can be quick and dramatic. But often after a storm a great, sunny, high pressure system moves in to create a glorious day. This happened last Friday night, it stormed but if you're in your Westy, no sweat. The next morning was amazing. I had some friends who wanted to go rock climbing, they didn't due to having to set up a tent in a pouring down rain. In a Westy they could have pulled up, cooked if they wanted then slept.
2. Herbie is right, the support of the community around you is amazing and seemingly everywhere. Internet search Aircooled Rescue when you have time; basically an informal network of people who will help nationwide.
3. Jay, I've seen that Defender Dormobile too and could daydream for hours about that, then I remember it's a Land Rover. But man, what a platform for exploring! (So long as it's running)

Now a couple of observations based on 5 years with my '69 Westy with a Type 1 engine:

1. Small "footprints" are not only good for trails but also urban parking.
2. The space utilization in these small rigs is nothing short of amazing. I've cooked inside. There's a camp toilet. I have a 12v refrigerator. All the spares and tools I need. I keep all the clothes and food I need to leave at a moments notice. All tucked away neatly in various cabinets, but no clutter.
3. No air conditioning which is a huge limiting factor. Summers in Atlanta? Please.
4. No speed. Exiting and entering the vortex of city traffic is the pits.
5. Many trips I'm all about the slow cruise, the Blue Ridge Parkway for example. But sometimes, I'm just going rock climbing or hiking for the day and I need to get back quickly. Nothing happens quickly in my Westy.

Don't get me wrong, I love the thing. But man do I wish someone would make its modern equivalent. I'd just own both.

I would love to see someone that has owned a Westy in the past compare it to the Jeep Unlimited with Ursa Minor pop top. Not exactly pass through but could be done in a storm. It would not have a stove but my '69 doesn't either, I just place my one burner butane stove on the sink cabinet.
 
80's and 90's I was in the automobile wholesale business in N. Cali. If only I'd known what they would be worth then! Folks would trade these things in for nothing when they tired of the problems. The dealers didn't want them for the same reason. I found a guy in Canada that would come down and buy every one I could find twice a year and take them back to Canada. At that time I was the only guy around that would take them so basically I could name my price. I cut a fat hog on those rigs in those days. Nothing like they are worth nowadays. The thing is, there is so much better equipment available for so much less it is surprising to me that they bring the money they do even considering the nostalgia.
 
There was a video about VW van life and one of the owners/narrators said "some times on a trip you planned months for, teh van lets you know in the first hour, not this time" and you turn around. That is what I could not handle....
 
mb28, What's needed are bumper/window stickers to put on the more reliable vehicles most of us drive these days saying ---in my mind this is a VW syncro.
 
Jay I'm with you on that (can't seem to get your last post quoted). And I'm with you on the "gas and go" thing too. Maybe if I was retired or on a sabbatical I could "be all about the journey". But until then I'm working full time and raising kids in all the activities they come with so for now, I need to get out there and get back.

I should also mention I tried the Sportsmobile thing too. Found a great example at a great price. Some folks suggest this as the modern alternative to the Westy. It is a great alternative but had some drawbacks:
1. They are huge. Tough to park in an urban environment, impossible in parking garages generally that you find in big cities.
2. The space for your hands/arms under the hood or even taking off the doghouse is laughable. Really tight. I don't do ALL my own work but I like to do what I can when I can. The VW has wonderful space around the engine.
3. Speaking of the doghouse, the heat. Gets a little warm. Yes I know you can add sound deadening and insulation. But the factory applied stuff was in great shape, not sure anything else would have been significantly better.

I see that Alu-Cab is in the US now via OK4WD in New Jersey. Man, just think if they could put that Icarus pop top on a domestic SUV!
 
It takes a certain type of person to be a VW camper owner. The VW community is a big part of it and driving one typically makes people smile; people telling stories about growing up with some VW or another used to be pretty common but they seem to be tapering off as the vehicles age. You have to be able to maintain them though and personally I finally got to the point where I just couldn't keep up with it and I wasn't enjoying it. I wasn't home enough and when I was, I wanted to be able to jump in the vehicle and go- at highway speeds with junk on top or behind and with air conditioning.

After I restored my last one (I've owned several Type IIs as well as a couple of other air cooled VWs) it was plenty reliable and I drove it all over the southeast without a second thought but when I started working overseas and was gone for a month at a time it became a chore to keep it up.

Being able to stop on the side of the road and cook a meal or make hot tea is great though. One time I was on my way home from work and I'd stopped to get sushi from the Japanese restaurant I frequented. A storm passed through just ahead of me and up the street from my house one of the neighbor's trees had blown over and was blocking the road (cul de sac). It was still pouring rain so I climbed in the back of the bus I was driving at the time (’79 non-poptop with a Westy interior) and proceeded to make some tea and eat my sushi- all nice and dry. When I had finished I climbed over the tree, walked to my house, got the chainsaw and the Land Cruiser (winch on front) and came back and removed the tree from the road. Just one goofy story of many involving the VW.

I more or less lived out my ’78 on and off for about a year and honestly I can say that it was one of the most comfortable places to sleep I’ve ever had. Waking up early so you can de-ice/defrost the windows so you can drive to work sucks but it’s part of the game. Vanagons are better on the road but the air cooled are better off and you'd be surprised how far down a dirt road you can get either.

Gratuitous Westy porn. My now sold '78.
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How did those work out for you by the way? Hopefully it all came together- I'd like to see a pic of what your truck looks like now, it was really nice.
 
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That is easy Robert - sliders went on great, a little tucked in. but I have used them... and they did their job!
 
Looks great. I actually like them tucked up closer on a vehicle that gets everyday use; nothing like stepping out of the truck to go to work or wherever and getting mud on the back of your pants leg. Plus I have short legs. LOL
 
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